The First Annual Q and Z July Football Extravaganza Post

Quotes of the Day:

uggggggghhhhhh”     —Quail

Blank Stare” –Zeek

–board/bored comments from sports fans and longtime friends of the blog on July 1, 2009

Did anybody besides TB find last week’s poll results interesting? Discounting the anomaly that no one admitted to getting most of their news from Rush and Fox, I learned mainly that you can please some of the people some of the time but you can’t please all the people all the time. So today is dedicated to pleasing some of the people for one day in the sweltering Mississippi July heat.

Mississippi has more than its share of troubles. But there are a few areas where our state excels and in fact competes at the highest levels. One of those areas is in producing great football players. We had a lot of fun around here last year talking about the best that Pascagoula had to offer. For July, let’s expand the discussion to our all-state all time team.  I’ve got a few nominations, but a bunch of holes too. My personal criteria is to allow players who attended college in Mississippi, even if they came from another state, and to keep the Mississippi prepsters who left the state for college. I look forward to seeing how our squad looks come August and the opening of training camp.

  • QB–Brett Favre (USM)
  • TB–Walter Payton (JSU)
  • RB–Doc Blanchard (St. Stanislaus)
  • WR–Jerry Rice (MVSU)
  • WR–Lance Alworth (Brookhaven)
  • TE–Wesley Walls (OM)
  • OT–Robert Brazille (JSU)
  • OG–Bruiser Kinard (OM)
  • C–Kent Hull (MSU)
  • OG–Gene Hickerson (OM)
  • OT–Jackie Slater (JSU)
  • DE–LC Greenwood (Canton)
  • DL–
  • DL–
  • DE–Ben Williams (OM)
  • LB–DD Lewis (MSU)
  • LB–Hugh Green (Natchez)
  • LB–
  • CB–Lem Barney (JSU)
  • S–
  • S–
  • CB–Willie Brown (Yazoo City)
  • K–Stephen Gostkowski (Madison)
  • P–Ray Guy (USM)

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I'm a 40 year old lawyer living in Ridgeland, Mississippi. I'm several years and a couple hundred miles removed from most of my old running buddies so I started the blog to provide an outlet for many of the observations and ideas that used to be the subjects of our late night/happy hour/halftime conversations and arguments.
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51 Responses to The First Annual Q and Z July Football Extravaganza Post

  1. cousinwalter says:

    How bout Ole Miss’ Michael Oher at the other offensive tackle? You figure if you have a book and movie made about your life, you got to be worth something.

  2. Harmony says:

    Uggghhhhh *blank stare*

    I know nothing about Football, except that it has the ability to control minds in the most mysterious ways. My best guy friend from High School managed to work Football into every single essay he did in our English classes we had together, it was truly amazing!

  3. He’s been dang good so far and I have no big argument with him. But my personal preference was for guys who have already made it in the pros.

    I’ll say this…the first time I saw Oher live, I was more impressed with him than any other lineman I’ve seen.

    College football fans, if you need a July fix, go over to Cousin Walter’s blog. It’s very good, and there are no non-football distractions. I’ll be keeping up, especially when we get to August. Cousin Walter, I hope you will check in here on Thursdays for our pickin competition come week one.

  4. Sorry Harmo, “sports” got much support as favorite and least favorite. I do football every Thursday during the season, though in a way that’s fun for all. Fall Thursdays are music days too, so you will have something worth visiting for!

    edited to add….ditto S&M; also, McNair would be in the fight for backup QB on my list–He’s from Alcorn State/Mt Olive MS by the way. Such terrible news.

  5. Samsmama says:

    Uggghhhhh *blank stare*

    I’m with Harmony.

    I know very

  6. Harmony says: worries. I may not understand it, but I’ll still read it. Is that okay?

  7. Samsmama says:


    little about football. But Steve McNair is dead. After being shot in the head twice and the body twice, it was ruled a “homicide”. Well no kidding!

  8. cousinwalter says:

    If your going to do it that way, why start a 4o year old Brett Favre who has shoulder problems when you can start Eli Manning smack in the middle of his prime?

  9. Jessie Lou says:

    Love the football Thursdays and seeing the music entries! It gets very spirited and is quite entertaining.

    Steve McNair started thinking with another body part besides his brain and it led him to a place he should have never been in the first place. Perhaps she shot the wrong “brain” as it were. All smartassedness aside, he did not deserve to be shot but it does go to show you what can happen when you are some place you should not have been in the first place. I feel sorry for his children especially. I believe his son is the QB for Oak Grove and has a promising future ahead of him – too bad his father will not be around to watch this season – he is either a junior or a senior.

  10. cousin, the same reason I’m starting a 100 year old Bruiser Kinard.

    An argument can be made for Eli, but for body of work to make an all time team, I don’t think he measures up to Favre yet.

    If I were starting a team of guys who are still playing, this list would look slightly different.

  11. cousinwalter says:

    I don’t think he measures up to Favre yet either. I thought someone said they were leaving McNair out because he was dead. I’ll take Favre in his prime over either of them.

  12. I hear you now. My inference was not that he was left out because he died but because I didn’t include backups. Backup QB for this team is a tough call by the way. Eli, Archie, and Charlie Conerly would have to be considered along with McNair, and probably some others, including Jackie Parker.

  13. irvineredd says:

    I would say, if body of work is the measurement, Eli should get the back up spot, since he does have a Super Bowl ring. Something the others unfortunately do not. Although, Archie does have a speed limit. That’s pretty close.

  14. Samsmama says:

    Ok, I’m a little lost, but I want to go on the record as saying that I only mentioned McNair because that’s about the extent of my football knowledge. NFL player dead. Yahoo news told me.

  15. quail09 says:

    S & M, Harmony… you know how zeek and i felt about haikus ……TB….Jackie Slater was a tackle, so Gene Hickerson can go in the other guard spot opposite bruiser…..hall of famer with the cleveland browns…..202 games….blocked for leroy kelley and jim brown….ole miss boy

  16. BR says:

    I don’t know who i would take off the LB postion
    but i feel Patrick Willis needs to be added by the accomp he has made already in the Nfl. (ROY,PRO BOWL .Here is a quote from Mike Singletry.

    “ I’ve coached two of the greatest linebackers — one that has already proven to be one of the greatest and one who will prove to be, barring health issues. ”
    —49ers’ coach Mike Singletary, refering to Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis.[5]

  17. corrected slater’s position and removed Fortunato as the most doubtful linebacker to allow more debate on that spot. Patrick Willis is very good, but I had not seen that Singletary quote. Impressive.

    The HOF’r that blocked for Jim Brown sounds like a likely addition to the line, but I’ll hold off until everybody gets a chance to chime in.

    Who from MS do we have at DL and Safety? I could only think of guys who were good but not exceptional at Safety and I didn’t include Cortez Kennedy or Deacon Jones because their college connection to MS is particularly weak (juco/1 year at MVSU respectively). What about Tim Bowens? His one year at OM doesn’t do it for me, but is he a native?

  18. quail09 says:

    If anyone can name a better guard than Hickerson, i want to hear it

  19. Face says:

    Give me lance alworth at wr. He’s in the hall of fame.

  20. quail09 says:

    good one, face

  21. quail09 says:

    what about TBuck in the Dbackfield??

  22. Samsmama says:

    I could really go for a haiku right about now.

  23. Face says:

    Irvineredd, Charlie conerly won the NFL championship and lost a couple of times. It just wasn’t called the super bowl at the time.

    I think tbuck deserves some consideration.

    It looks like you could almost field an offense of all hall of famers.

  24. Let me know when y’all get around to talking about the REAL sport — men’s college tennis.

  25. Samsmama says:

    TDW, nobody cares but you. 🙂

  26. Harmony says:

    quail09 ~ Touche…I’ll suck it up and be a big girl. 🙂

  27. quail09 says:

    Harmony…..thanks for bearing up under the psychic weight of that most glorious subject…mississippi football

  28. irvineredd says:

    Face, I did not know that and when I was typing my post I knew someone in that list was going to end up having a championship or two. Preesh the enlightenment.

  29. Jessie Lou says:

    A thrilling post about Mississippi Football
    Harmony & Samsmama – we know it ain’t for ya’ll
    But we must be flexible for Q09 and Zeek
    To keep their blog interest at it’s peek
    Even though we have tried to stretch their brains
    With haikus, rhymes and those sorts of thangs
    They will always go back to their Ground Zero
    Talking about all of their sports heros.

    I can do rhymes but no haikus
    Compliments of one named Jessie Lou

  30. Samsmama says:

    Brava, Jessie Lou! Thank you for that!

  31. Zeek says:

    TB, very surprised you left off Gen. Buck, and does anyone remember a WR from Vicksburg by the name of Lance Alworth??

    Freddie Joe Nunn(Ole Miss) DE
    Andre Townsend (Ole Miss) DT

    Sammy Winder(USM) RB

    Just a few real quick.

    Q09- Give ’em Hell son, we know what’s good and what’s garbage!!!!

  32. face says:

    Zeek, do you just skip over my posts? I believe Alworth went to Brookhaven HS.

  33. I had Buck and Smoot at first, but the two corners are both HOF’rs and Richardson is credited with developing the bump and run. Tough comp at CB.

    Alworth deserves in over Moulds for the same reason. I’ll make that change.

    Still looking for safeties and more DL’s. We’ve got shut down corners 4 deep (Smoot and Buck, maybe even Hanford Dixon) but need some pressure on the QB and a run stopper.

    Blanchard is debatable at RB. I put him there for his Heisman.

  34. larry says:

    I think Alworth was from Brookhaven.

  35. irvineredd says:

    Alworth, born in Houston, raised in Brookhaven

  36. larry says:

    Face your posts must be delayed

  37. quail09 says:

    Eddie Khayat played DL for ten years with the Philadelphia Eagles…..Andre Townsend was on the Denver Broncos superbowl team as a DL….also, Ken Farragut of Moss Point could be listed as a backup center to Hull…

  38. quail09 says:

    Townsend was actually a defensive end and played in 2 superbowls as a starter…..Fred Cook played defensive end for about 9 years for the Baltimore Colts

  39. Jessie Lou says:

    Thanks Samsmama – it was just for you and Harmony.

  40. Harmony says:

    Awww Jessie Lou coming through for us…Thank You!

  41. Jessie Lou says:

    You are welcome chick!

  42. Zeek says:

    Face- your posts are delayed and ya’ll are correct on Brookhaven, that was a brain fart on my part. Sorry MD, for dissin your original hometown. There has to be some DL’s out there somewhere, there are enough great DB’s to just generalize it as such, instead of going S and CB.

    I have to shamelessly take this opportunity to share my joy and pride about my son, Jakob. Last nite in the Little League 11 yr.old State Championship game against Biloxi he pitched 4 2/3 innings with 9 strikeouts, 1 walk, 1 earned run, and went 4-4 , leading his team to victory.

    BEST PART- after game, umpired came up and told my wife that he was the most well-mannered kid he saw the whole tournament. THAT made me proud!!!!

  43. Zeek says:

    Hey Quail, what was that DL from Alligator, MS, that played at UM and Green Bay?? He was pretty darn good if memory serves.

  44. Jessie Lou says:

    Could that be Tony Bennett, not the singer? There was also Charles Bennett who played for UL-LA and later Miami.

  45. Jessie Lou says:

    Congrats on the good manners Zeek – that will serve him alot longer than the baseball, although that is sounding very positive as well. My 10 year old nephew is pitching for Pgoula All-Stars and it is nice to see him do well. I’m working on his manners – they are not quite up to my standards. Irvine spoiled me and there is a high standard to live up to there.

  46. Zeek says:

    I think Bennett is correct JLou, wow, nice call, you never cease to amaze.

  47. Jessie Lou says:

    You know I am a complex gal! I have to keep up with you guys and your infinite bank of knowledge.

  48. quail09 says:

    JL…your knowledge of football and other sports trivia suits you better that the haikus

  49. Zeek says:

    I second that emotion!!!

  50. Jessie Lou says:

    Ahh, that is because that is what interests you the most…. the sports vs. the haikus. However, I will take the compliments whenever and whereever they come. Thank you quite kindly.

  51. irvineredd says:

    Zeek, congrats! Thanks, JL. Who knew I could set standards?

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